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Old 04-23-2010, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've used the double uni-knot to join lines for a while now. All the directions I've seen show the standard 5 turns on the right, snug then 5 turns on the left, snug, tighten and trim. The directions show that on the right hand side you start the tag by looping it up and over the main line, do the 5 wraps and move to the left. Start that tag end Up and over the main line for 5 wraps.
If you tie this knot with something large like weed whacker line you can see that the 2 joins are at opposite angles. The knot on the right does a 45 falling from left to right and the know on the left falls from right to left.

Here's a link to example for how to tie the knot:
http://www.netknots.com/html/double_uni_knot.html

If you do the right hand side like most directions show but then do the left hand side different. Instead of going from front to back up and over, you go back to front up and over you end up with both knots at the same angle and they join up cleaner and make a slightly smaller knot.

Anybody tie this different than what the directions show? If so notice any problems with it? I used to break at the join a lot and now don't and I think it's by the way I tie the knot. Or maybe I just remember to put more spit on it that I used to.

Her'es 2 pics of double-uni-knots with 3 wraps/side. The first is per directions the 2nd is the other way.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I usually do it without thinking about it but I am pretty sure its ends up like example 2. I have never had any issues with it breaking or slipping. I totally jinxed myself by saying that but what the heck....
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I use the uni for my regular knots (going through hook hole twice though) And no problems. I use the double uni to attatch 2 lines and no problems either.
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I blamed the uni to uni knot for all my line failures until I switch to Segaur from Vanish. I've had the same leader on for a year without breaking. Switching it out this week. I use the 5x5. I'm looking into the Slim beauty, but I need to make a drawing of it for the guy that ties my line. I think the Slim Beauty will hold as well but go through the eyes easier. Remains to be seen though. It's initially more complicated to understand.

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Old 04-23-2010, 02:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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example two...tags need to go opposite directions and opposite sides.
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I use 5 turns on the braid side, and eight turns on the leader side. If Im impatient or rush it I do get breakoffs at the knot, but If I do it right the FC line will usualy break at the hook. I usually use this on football jig setups or finesse rigs like dropshot, tubes etc. I only get breakoffs when snagged, never on fish. I've heard the J knot and Albright knot are superior knot alternatives.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Try this Mike

http://www.stripersonline.com/Pages/...tos_knot.shtml

Albertos knot, it is similar to uni knot, but is slightly smaller when tied.
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I was extremely hesitant to use a braid/fluoro leader with big baits for fear of failure from the attaching knot (both on the cast and from setting the hook). I went with the Alberto and to say Im impressed is an understatement. Mostly for added security, I do add a small drop of super glue on the braid tag end. I have no experience with the Uni-Uni, but that would be my second choice. I use the Uni to attach all baits.
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Yeah I like both. I have learned to tie both very efficiently. Have never had one fail on me yet. *knock on wood*
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If you want to see scientific strengths tests of different knots rather than favorites and opinions, watch this series. Google Knot wars. These were the winners last time I checked. Japanese subtitles but spoken in English, I can't find the original.

http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView....lipid=20799917



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